Posts by The Searcher

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LONDON Kingdom Hall for sale - well, kinda!

by darkspilver in

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the sell-off of kingdom hall's in the uk is continuing unabated as we are about to enter 2017....in addition to the thirty-five kingdom halls highlighted by the search a couple of months back.....it seems the cry has gone out to: "sell them faster!

faster!

The Searcher

According to the UK Land Registry, this property was last purchased on April 15th 2015 for £925,000.

http://landregistry.data.gov.uk/app/ppd/search

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J.W. Elders Are Knowingly Complicit

by The Searcher in

for anyone who denies that the wtbts teaches jehovah's witnesses & potential converts lies and perversions of scriptures via their literature, here is a prime example:

w88 2/15 p. 9 further corrective counsel - "but because of human imperfection, at times serious disputes will occur.

jesus also provides guidelines for handling them.

The Searcher

CRAZYGUY, is this the scripture you were thinking of?

(Hebrews 13:17) "Be obedient to those who are taking the lead among you and be submissive......"

I much prefer this translation which can be rendered from the original Greek as, "Be persuaded by those going before you, and resist no longer." [the teachings about Christ?] https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/heb/13/1/t_conc_1146017

Apart from the fact that Jesus said there would be no leaders - only him, the latter translation is far more Christ-like in tone than the dictatorial language which the RNWT uses to their advantage.

I know which rendition sounds more appealing and in harmony to me.

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J.W. Elders Are Knowingly Complicit

by The Searcher in

for anyone who denies that the wtbts teaches jehovah's witnesses & potential converts lies and perversions of scriptures via their literature, here is a prime example:

w88 2/15 p. 9 further corrective counsel - "but because of human imperfection, at times serious disputes will occur.

jesus also provides guidelines for handling them.

The Searcher

April 2017 Study Watchtower - Page 21, par. 14: "However, in many cases that do not involve serious wrongdoing, it may be possible to resolve a difference without involving anyone else, not even the elders." (Read Matthew18:15.)

Yeah, let's do that - let's read Matthew 18:15: "Moreover, if your brother commits a sin...."

Nope - I don't see where Jesus said "if your brother commits a trivial sin you can sort it out without bothering the elders."

Verses 16 & 17 prove conclusively that Jesus was referring to serious sins, and that they were to be dealt with by the parties themselves - privately! WTBTS perpetuating the lie in order to maintain fear & control.

How is confessing sins to elders any better than Catholics confessing to priests?

Keep in mind that elders can forgive you or punish you for your sins - as the 1988 Watchtower teaches!!!!!

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J.W. Elders Are Knowingly Complicit

by The Searcher in

for anyone who denies that the wtbts teaches jehovah's witnesses & potential converts lies and perversions of scriptures via their literature, here is a prime example:

w88 2/15 p. 9 further corrective counsel - "but because of human imperfection, at times serious disputes will occur.

jesus also provides guidelines for handling them.

The Searcher

For anyone who denies that the WTBTS teaches Jehovah's Witnesses & potential converts lies and perversions of scriptures via their literature, here is a prime example:

w88 2/15 p. 9 Further Corrective Counsel - "But because of human imperfection, at times serious disputes will occur. Jesus also provides guidelines for handling them. "If your brother commits a sin," Jesus says, "go lay bare his fault 1) between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother." (Matt. 18:15-17) Only as a last resort, Jesus says, take the matter to "the congregation," that is, to 2) responsible overseers of the congregation who can render a judicial decision....In making such a decision, overseers need to 3) adhere closely to instructions in Jehovah’s Word. Thus, when they find an individual guilty and 4) worthy of punishment, the judgment ‘will already have been bound in heaven.’

1) "Between you and him alone" - if resolved, nobody else was to be informed of the sin - not even the elders! Only as a last resort was anyone else to be involved.

2) Nope! Jesus didn't say or mean "overseers", he said and meant the congregation as a whole - every member! (check the original Greek - did Jesus say ekklesia - congregation or presbyteros - elders?)

3) "Adhere closely" to instructions in the Bible? Sorry WTBTS, you exposed yourself at #1.

4) Do J.W.'s know of any scriptures which say that their "loving shepherds" have been given the authority to judge & punish them?

The WTBTS goes way beyond the things written - in order to gather evidence for their perverted shunning dogma.

May 2017 bring them even more exposure & troubles than they faced in 2016.

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Jeremiah 10:23 - "...It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step."

by HereIgo in

i have been accused recently of "trying to direct my own step" because of my questioning the org and refusing to come back to the "truth" for the past 6 years.

i personally still believe in god, i just doubt that he is behind the jw org, that's all.

why is that so hard for jw's to understand?

The Searcher

"Independent thinking" cannot and will not be tolerated by the org's rule-makers, and offenders will be promptly dealt with!

Any J.W. who disagrees with this, only needs to express an "original" scriptural thought while in company with other J.W.'s to see how quickly their "thinking" is suppressed.

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"Jehovah's Witnesses" : A religion - or a denomination of a religion?

by The Searcher in

"a christian denomination is a generic term for a distinct religious body identified by traits such as a common name, structure, leadership and doctrine.

individual bodies, however, may use alternative terms to describe themselves, such as church or fellowship.

" (wikipedia) .

The Searcher

"A Christian denomination is a generic term for a distinct religious body identified by traits such as a common name, structure, leadership and doctrine. Individual bodies, however, may use alternative terms to describe themselves, such as church or fellowship." (Wikipedia)

In other words, when J.W.'s are asked what their religion is, they should reply "Christian," not J.W.

By saying their religion is "J.W.", they are denying Acts 11:26 which says that followers of Christ are called Christians.

'Jehovah's Witnesses' is strictly speaking not a religion - it is the name which identifies a religious body or group which is a denomination, sect, or cult of the Christian religion. IMHO.

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Is it morally wrong to put Watchtower behind?

by Darkknight757 in

with our latest and final run in with the elders, the wife and i had a very long talk about what's next in our life.

do we try to help others see the light as it were concerning watchtower or do we just let it go and move on with our life?

we have made it perfectly clear that we will never go back to watchtower and we are finally happy.

The Searcher

You've cut the cord - now have a great life and don't look back. So happy for you both!

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What a heart-warming and emotive video!

by The Searcher in

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'hallelujah' - sung by a choir of irish schoolchildren with special needs.

beautiful!.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgarg_sdkbw.

The Searcher

'Hallelujah' - sung by a choir of Irish schoolchildren with special needs. Beautiful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGArg_Sdkbw

On BBC News too - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38389374

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How does the overlapping generation ( interpretation) apply to these scriptures ? ,part 2.

by smiddy in

i wonder how the overlapping generation interpretation by the wt /jw religion applys to these scriptures reffering to a generation or these generations.. a generation reffering to one that the bible scriptures acknowledge is approximately 50 years in length give or take a few years.. mathtew chap 1:abraham born in 2018 , jesus born in 2 bc , =2016 divided by 42 generations as stated in matthew chapter 1 amounts to 43 years for a generation.. so how does an overlapping generation fit in with the wt interpretation with this scripture for a generation.?.

obviously an overlapping generation does not apply here .. so when does the jw/gb apply an overlapping generaration and when do they not apply an overlapping generation ?.

The Searcher

It works very easily - because God's alleged chosen ones in N.Y. State told them so.

The scriptures below will simply be dismissed with trite explanations;

(Numbers 32:13) "So Jehovah’s anger blazed against Israel and he made them wander about in the wilderness for 40 years, until all the generation that was doing evil in the eyes of Jehovah came to its end."

(Job 42:16) "After this Job lived for 140 years, and he saw his children and his grandchildren—four generations." (140 divided by 4 = 35 years long)

(Matthew 24:34) "Truly I say to you that this generation (33CE - 70C.E) will by no means pass away until all these things happen." (37 years long)

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The Noblest Hope?

by JW_Rogue in

from this week's wt study:.

all of us, whether of the anointed or of the “other sheep,” hope to see the fulfillment of god’s original purpose and the sanctification of jehovah’s name.

(john 10:16; matt.

The Searcher

tor1500 said - "....Jehovah don't need us to clear his name, that's why he sent his son..."

Revelation 3:14 describes only Jesus as God's faithful and true witness - everyone else had to witness for Christ - not God! There's not a single scripture which says Christians would/should witness for God!

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/70840001/attention-all-bethelite-lurkers

Rutherford conned the Bible Students with his re-branding exercise. Nice job!